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    Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    This 43% Carden Hamilton Watch 260 started life with an MVVS-190 quad on pipes.

    Really liked it but decided to experiment with it lighter using a GP176evo on the same pipes. Definitely a lighter feel but I just keep getting pulled back to the quads!

    Recently ran about 40 flights on my new DLE222-V3 quad in my 41% CARF Suhkoi and have been so impressed! So smooth and crazy power! Hauls around that huge 48lb Suhk like a foamy!

    Decided to retrofit the Carden for the DLE222. Will also put it on the Planebender smooth pipes! I expect some nutty performance at 42lbs!!

    Here was the build thread on the Carden....
    http://www.rccanada.ca/rccforum/showthread.php?t=207378

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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    Video of how it started... with MVVS190...




    Then with the GP176evo on smooth pipes....

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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    I built this Carden for the MVVS190 which is a really short quad like the Mintor220. For the GP176evo, I used a plywood donut for a standoff.

    But the DLE222 is long like the DA200 and ZDZ224... means lobbing off the motorbox.

    (Don't worry... all sides of the motorbox will be strengthened soon)
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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    Got the new firewall Hysol'd in place. Will clean it all up once cured.

    Over the next few days I will stiffen the motorbox and tie in this new firewall
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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    Love this plane
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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    New motorbox is nearly complete. Just have the gusset the firewall.
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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    Bolted the motor on. Fits perfectly.

    Will work on exhaust and baffling over the next few days!
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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    Making me miss it already
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    By myself or with somebody!!
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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    On all of the past quads, I have done a fairly elaborate baffling system. However the cooling is actually too much sometimes, especially if it gets cool out (has trouble getting up to temp).

    On the CARF Suhkoi I opened up the baffling a ton from normal and was really impressed with the temp profiles over all the flights whether 10deg or 35deg ambient.

    For this one I am going to try a more standard baffling setup one would see on a twin (closer to the Suhkoi setup). I will watch my temp sensors closely and see how this works.
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    Re: Quad'itizing a 43% Carden

    These headers are from DLE Australia. Except for a little thinner flange they are just like MTW headers for DA. Very impressed.

    They come about 17" long. Looking at all the past quad testing on pipes I went with 12" headers. I'm not too worried since the pipes are Planebender Smoothpipes and testing has shown they are not peaky and sensitive to headerlength like MTW and KS.
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